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Speaker 1: (00:00)
Uh, welcome. And today we're gonna be talking about, uh, accounting and the rev ops flywheel. Uh, really exciting topic. Uh, we have an amazing guest here today that I'll jump to an intro here in a second. But, uh, what we're discussing today is, uh, why accounting is critical to rev ops, uh, where you can find the necessary data to power that revs flywheel with the accounting information and how you can work to get it inside of your crm. Uh, aligning your rev fri flywheel using that accounting data. Uh, and then we'd love to take questions from you guys as well. So if you have questions throughout, uh, throw them into the chat and we will field them towards the end of the conversation. Um, so in terms of who we have here today, I'm Connor, uh, I am the CEO of Apps Today. We are a hub, elite partner, uh, rev consulting firm, and we work with lots of companies on integrating all of their business systems to deliver amazing customer experiences. Uh, and with us we have Brian Saaf. Brian, I'll let you do your own intro. Uh, I'll over to you.

Speaker 2: (00:54)
Great, thanks. Hi, everybody. So my name's Brian Setoff, CEO of Ally Street. Um, we're a solution for small businesses, really trying to help them better, um, understand their customers by generating better analytics, um, out of data that they probably already have. They're probably already spent a lot of time and effort managing and could be put to better use.

Speaker 1: (01:17)
Cool. Well, I will go ahead and we can kick us off, and Brian, I'll hand it to you for why we wanted to do this today.

Speaker 2: (01:24)
Yeah. So that's, uh, it's about putting it to better use, right? So Rev, um, you know, is, is really about breaking down those silos and aligning sales and marketing and customer success or service so the customer gets a better experience. Uh, but for the rev groups, the Rev team to really perform at their best, they need to share a lot of the same metrics, a lot of the same infrastructure. And, and that's where we see things have kind of been, um, eh, I would say broken or where accounting's been kind of left out, right? So most of the lot of small businesses, especially ones who aren't have a high tech background, um, you know, they don't have a data warehouse. They don't have a data lake. Um, so they have a, a, you know, even if, and they don't have data scientists, right? So the challenge is where do they get the kind of information that they can use to drive their rev? And the one thing that they all do have, because everybody has to pay taxes, everybody has to report to management, is an accounting system. And the accounting system is just this treasure trove of, of information about what people bought, when they bought it, who their customers are, how frequently they buy. And, um, we think for, for too long, accounting has been kind of sitting over, you know, kind of as a back office function and disconnected from more of the, the front of the house, which is where we normally associate reds.

Speaker 1: (02:48)
Cool. Uh, so if we jump, I think, one or two ahead, uh, for where we see sort of accounting, uh, in all I so exciting, uh, about this topic is we've been talking a lot about product led growth and integrating product data into your CRM and doing all of those different things. And I think for some businesses that, uh, they aren't a software business, but they do have orders, they do have fulfillment, they do have a customer relationship. And especially if you're not a subscription business, you probably have customer relationships over a whole bunch of different touchpoints. And all of that data about how you interact with those customers, what they've bought and what they've done with your business exists in that accounting system. And I think what's so interesting about this topic is we don't see accounting in the rob op flywheel because everything in that rob op flywheel is about sort of how are you delivering that customer experience?

Speaker 1: (03:33)
How are you removing that friction? But at the end of the day, the financial relationship that your customer has with your business is in your accounting system. And that data powers everything else in your interactions with them, whether you're gonna modify your service levels based off of customer value or what skews they purchased, or you're going to market and drive, cross sell and upsell opportunities based off of what people have historically purchased, or for your sales team, allowing them to prioritize accounts that haven't ordered recently, or perhaps accounts that order very frequently, and you wanna give them more touch points. The only way that you can sort of deliver that type of an experience is if you have that data into your crm and you're aligned with how to actually go and deliver that to those end customers, uh, which I think is awesome. So let's jump into a little bit of like what types of things, uh, you kind of wanna track. I know that when I look at these, I see cool, these are sort of our standard, uh, type of metrics, but I think on, on your end, Brian, obviously these are ones that you guys focus on. Uh, I would love to learn sort of like why and, and where you see the importance.

Speaker 2: (04:31)
Yeah, and I'm, I'm really glad you mentioned non-software companies because as a, as a little bit of background, that's, that's kind of the story, the creation story behind Tally Street. Um, you know, my background was in data analytics in SaaS, where these types of metrics have been used for a really long time. Things like C and ltv, andr, et cetera. Um, and then a few years ago I started a liquor company, liquor distribution. Um, you know, definitely not sas, definitely not very technical. Um, but I realized that a lot of those same metrics apply, like in my case, being on the menu at a bar was kind of like a subscription, right? As long as something I was delivering was on that bar menu, that restaurant was buying for me on a, on a recurring, regular basis. And that's something I need to track. And for, especially for SaaS businesses as well, but especially for Nonas businesses, b2b, that information is sitting there and accounting.

Speaker 2: (05:27)
And, and one of our hypotheses is that a lot of the SaaS metrics, like C and ltv, mrr, arr, even customer retention, net revenue retention, these can all be ported to other businesses. Other businesses should be using them as well to really understand how their customers are engaging, um, how they're driving repeat growth, how they're upselling and cross-selling, um, those businesses, right? So they can be used across, um, all the rev ops functions, I mean, across the, the entire team. Um, they're also really important metrics that a lot of businesses can use to, you know, their own internal KPIs, OKRs, you know, Gores goals, objectives, et cetera. But, you know, to incentivize employees. So keeping track of, of, um, you know, how customers, um, you know, revenue growth is, is increasing over time, or one thing we focus on a lot that's a problem for, for b2b, and we'll talk a little bit about more later, is, um, businesses getting paid. Basically you make a sale, which is great. Um, how quickly can you convert that sale into cash? And, and that takes a lot of effort too, and being able to manage and track the performance of that process as well as the kind of the risk associated with that process is, is very critical for, um, a lot of companies, a lot of B2B companies especially.

Speaker 1: (06:49)
I think something that I love that you touched on there, and I think is so true, is that these types of metrics I think are prevalent in software companies that both have the, whether it's the venture financing to go and build all of this infrastructure out, or whether it's just that because they're a product business, they already have the technology in place that can generate a lot of these metrics and that their fixation on them is sort of a byproduct of having the tools in place and that the value is, is their, regardless of what type of business you are. And it's more about finding ways to deliver this to folks that don't necessarily have that level of infrastructure there, which I think is awesome. Um, jumping ahead one, I think the big piece for this, right? I mean, obviously you talked about data lakes and your accounting system and how you can get all these, but really is where, where you can get this information and, and how you can make use of it, which I think is an area that you are extremely well to touch on. So I'll let you sort of expand on.

Speaker 2: (07:41)
Yeah, and I, you know, I experienced this firsthand, right? Having been in the SAS world, the VC back startup world, um, you know, co-founding and a large mobile analytics company, and then starting a liquor distributor, where despite my technical expertise, like having the data together in a place where I could analyze it was, was difficult enough, difficult to impossible, or at least too expensive. And then having the people analyze it was even like more difficult and expensive. So looking around, it's the accounting system is where a lot of this sits, right? So if, if you think about what's in a typical accounting system or on it, they could just pick out an invoice, right? The invoice has a date when the invoice is issued, when the sale was officially made, it has obviously who it's sent to, but you also have, uh, payment terms on there.

Speaker 2: (08:29)
You have line items for every single product or services that was bought, the quantity, the price, you can mine that information to produce amazing information. Um, you know, one of the simplest things is just ltv, you know, just summing up the invoices from the entire history of engagement with any customer gives you their, their lifetime value. But then Mr. Arr, those kind of SAS metrics, customer retention, net revenue retention, which, which then you can use to kind of predict, you know, lifetime value of new customers you might acquire if you, if you know how long they might stick around. Um, but you can even get down to that really detailed kind of product level and understand, um, pricing performance, right? Like, which customers are, are high margin customers paying good prices for the products or services that business is selling? Um, you know, which ones, one thing we see a lot is a, a business negotiates a good deal because a certain amount of volume is anticipated, and then over time the, the actual volume falls short of what was anticipated.

Speaker 2: (09:34)
Um, so the discount structure maybe should change. So, you know, things like, uh, attracting that all that information is, is sitting there in the accounting system kind of waiting to be used. Um, another thing about the accounting system, and I think especially compared to CRMs is, you know, a lot of people are in a crm, which is fantastic. It also means though that it, it can be, um, you know, not quite as clean or not quite as well ordered because it's being touched by so many people. Um, accounting is kind of the exact opposite, right? It tends to be really, really clean some of the more pristine data that a business has. Um, you know, if you're a customer, anybody on this, this, you know, listening to the webinar, if somebody sends you an invoice and it's wrong, you're probably not gonna pay it, right?

Speaker 2: (10:19)
So the information on those invoices tends to be really accurate and in some cases, um, you know, in many cases different than maybe the deal and HubSpot, because you know what, what happens changes over time and that gets captured in those invoices. So, um, it's, you know, it's a, it's a wealth of information that we think has gone on touch for too long and businesses, they're already investing a lot of time and effort across accounting, taxes, et cetera, managing that data. And this is an opportunity to really leverage it, integrate it with your CRM and put it to better use.

Speaker 1: (10:56)
Cool. Let's talk about how that looks in practice. So if I jump ahead, sort of talking about how this actually comes into, uh, your overall rev flywheel and how you guys can use it across, uh, different functions in, in the business. So obviously one that jumps out to us, uh, on our side and we have customers sort of working with all, all the time of how can we identify our highest value customers? How can we segment those customers? Who should we be marketing to and when, which is using those updates in your CRM from your accounting platform, your marketing team can create targeted closed loss nurture campaigns. We can actually go after people that they haven't bought from us in, in six months. We've had a couple of open deals with them and they're not so warm anymore in sales, doesn't wanna work it. And you can manage those communications out from hubs saw automatically with some of those segmented lists.

Speaker 1: (11:45)
Uh, I think also with those accounting insights, your marketing team can visualize those account information as well and understand which specific customers have bought in in the past, and use that to inform their strategy and their segmentation and their persona building so that instead of thinking, you know, who are the customers and let's sort of come up with this idea of who our ICP is, instead you're really informing that ideal customer profile by real financial and accounting information. And I think especially for those folks on the agency side, uh, this is one of the big reasons why we are huge fans of Tally Street as a product, but you can come into a business without having a great deal of background on all these other pieces. And by connecting Tally Street into their hub site system, connecting it back to their, their accounting solution, you can immediately pull a list of, okay, cool, let's go find your highest value customers.

Speaker 1: (12:30)
Let's reach out to them. Let's do interviews. Let's build, uh, segmentation and profiles on each one of these people. And your ability to sort of enrich and power both the strategy component but also the tactics. Because these are all gonna come in as fields and you can start to build segments off of let's do a, a high value customer campaign and drive people towards reward or integrate sort of a direct mail solution like a, a postal or a sendo. So, or any of these tools to be able to send thank yous to customers when they hit a certain, uh, total value. These are all sort of automated workflows you can build into your system, uh, just by connecting the two tools. Um, I think on, on your end, Brian, I'd, I'd be interested, I know especially one of the areas that you guys think a lot about is around sales and accounting and, and how those workflows power, if we jump to the next slide.

Speaker 2: (13:17)
Yeah, I think, um, you know, you mentioned segmentation, which I, and, and described it well from a sales perspective, understanding the per, you know, the persona or the profiles of some of the best customers. And you know, that's, if we're analyzing what's in the accounting system, those are obviously customers who are already customers, right? They, they've been sent some kind of invoice. Um, so they're not prospects, but it can be mine for you gave great examples again of using it on the, the, the champion side, um, finding those very best customers and who they are. Um, but the same profile can be used to identified churn risk. Um, so the account management team as well as marketing can, can jump on those before it's too late. Customer success, um, you know, it's worth looking at the other end of the persona scale too, right? So not the champions, but the ones who were, we call them mismatches, the ones who, you know, as customers never really engaged.

Speaker 2: (14:09)
Maybe they kicked the tires, bought something once, and then never really came back, never bought more. So at the same time, you look at the champions to develop the profile of, of target future customers, you can look at the mismatches and, and immediately hopefully, right, build out the persona of the profile of the types of, you know, businesses and customers you, you wanna avoid in the future because you know that you tax in that case, right? You're gonna spend more time acquiring them and they're not gonna stick around that long and, and they're not worth, you know, that additional effort.

Speaker 1: (14:41)
Um, I think something that's so valuable here, and I know that we've seen, so we, we had a customer, fairly large scale manufacturing business, and one of their biggest sort of constraints was, uh, they would take orders and then they would build custom fabricated solutions for customers. And so there's this whole problem of does this customer pay, do we have closed AR on them or do they have all these open invoices and they're coming back and asking for more materials. And now we're sort of wondering, okay, well should we be moving this to production if they've never, if we've never collected an invoice before, uh, like do we trust them to do this? And so being able to sort of reconcile those and their process was to have deals, flag it to accounting, goes to the cfo, they pull, pull over the data, they go back to the sales rep and say, oh, okay, and that might take a couple days. And being able to reference this directly in the crm, even for just a, an ease of access, both in personnel and then systems. I think the value add there is huge cuz you're getting a lot more efficiency out of your team, even if you're still going through the same process, uh, which I think is hugely valuable. Um, yeah,

Speaker 2: (15:45)
We've, we've, we've seen that a lot and, and you know, covid may be amplified it a little bit, but it's kind of, you know, if you think a customer has their own struggles for whatever reason and they're not paying, then you know, you might wanna stop digging that hole in some situations, right? Sure. Don't keep, don't keep selling and delivering more things if, if they're not paying. So yeah, having the information inside, you know, inside HubSpot, Salesforce, whatever, is a great way for sales teams to see that. Um, another kind of sales ops, uh, you know, real operational component is a lot of sales people get paid when the customer pays. Um, so , a surprising amount of time ends up being consumed by sales teams reaching out to the cfo, again, asked kind of, Hey, when's my commission check coming for this? Totally. And then they have to tell them it hasn't been paid yet. So, uh, you know, just pulling that, making that available in the CRM means that sales people can first of all see that they're waiting for the, the customer to pay before they get paid. Uh, but then they can pitch in and help, right? So everybody's on the same page and, and, and can help, uh, accelerate that collection.

Speaker 1: (16:50)
Yeah, I think that's amazing. And I think it's something also where we get tons of requests of, Hey, we wanna do our commissions outta HubSpot and we wanna build this. And we'll be like, Hey, we can build you a report and we can create calculated fields and we can have sort of these other elements. But then there's this problem of like, did that customer ever actually pay their invoice? And now later you have to go do clawbacks and it makes everything complicated. And sort of with this data, you could build that report and have it feed in only accounts that are actually up to date on payments and closed out, which I think is awesome. Um, I wanna jump to another example here. Uh, that's on the next i on customer success, which I think is something you briefly touched on on the last one, but so much of your CS relationship is around, is this customer paying us?

Speaker 1: (17:32)
Uh, what's the value of this customer? What's their historical order information? And if you're using a full CRM solution and everything's all built in, maybe your CS team has really good insight to what's been sold. Uh, but I think to your point, Bryan, did those orders go through? Did they call and say, oh wait, no, we don't, don't wanna do that. Like, let's change the quantity. Or maybe they took a lower number or the item was outta stock or any of the complexities that happen for businesses that aren't as, and I'll use the word simple, but uh, as simple as software, even though it may not be, uh, always the simplest, but I think being able to inform your CS folks for when is a customer up for renewal if you're a recurring business or when are they due? Something that we see a lot with folks that sell consumables.

Speaker 1: (18:13)
So we have some customers that sell into to healthcare and send machines and vials and consumable items, which is, when was the last time that customer ordered? How long ago was it? How are you gonna make sure that they're consistently ordering? And for folks who are in more of a commodity type of industry, what, how do you find out, unless your CS reps are calling people and saying, Hey, what's going on? Like, did you order from somebody else? But we've sort of seen solutions here where you can build in calculations to say, okay, based off of their historical order volume, here's how much we think they should be ordering. And if that number goes down, flag it to your customer success team to say, Hey, you have a customer they should have ordered. They either went with another competitor and they bought from another vendor, or, uh, they have something that you should probably be aware of cuz it's gonna impact the volume for the business at large.

Speaker 1: (19:00)
And when you have that accounting data at your fingertips, you can power a lot of that. I think to your point, there's also tremendous value in understanding just overall trends. Are we seeing hires sales order volume? Are we seeing lower volume? And I think for businesses, and we see this a lot where they may manage that front end of the customer relationship through the sales process and sales job is to go and procure a new customer and move them through, but they aren't necessarily processing a whole deal in HubSpot every time an order comes through that customer can order a synchronously or order from, you know, a forum on a site. Uh, and being able to track all of this without needing to build a ton of infrastructure, I think is hugely valuable. And it empowers your CS teams to have far more productive conversations informed by the financial relationship with the business that your customer has.

Speaker 2: (19:46)
We see, we see all the time working with businesses that the actual invoice amounts, uh, do not equal the sum of deals . And that's, that's fairly rare. And you know, you, you were talking about, uh, a few examples for upsells. You know, one we see a lot too, a lot of businesses have a, you know, you sell something up front, then you have to sell replacement parts or maintenance services. So being able to even trigger new deals to reach out, you see that somebody bought product X and you know that in three months, you know, they should need maintenance. So they should need some other replacement parts. Um, you know, is a great use case, um, in the accounting world. You know, you create credit memos if, if somebody needs to return something or there's a problem. And, and those can be really important signals into customer happiness, you know, with the product, with the service, right? So being able to track and report on those is, um, is an, an early signal that, um, customer success teams can really pay attention to.

Speaker 1: (20:48)
Cool. Let's, I think something that I think is amazing, uh, just to tee off on, on our next slide here and something that I know that you guys, uh, power, we may have missed one. Can we go back one slide? Cool. Uh, so something that I think is amazing and so I'll let you speak a lot about what this is and how you can do it, but something that I think is awesome, uh, and I get really excited about specific in some of these HubSpot worlds is looking at your CRM solution, not just as a tool to help you manage your marketing function or your sales function, but as an automation platform that you can leverage across your entire business. If you can get that data into your CRM solution or into your marketing automation platform, you can now do things that otherwise you'd be looking at other products or additional solutions to do. And you can leverage that automation not only for marketing or only for sales, but across other areas of your business. And so I'm super excited to cover this, but Brian, I'll let you expand on it cuz I know it's something that you guys spend a fair amount of focus on as well.

Speaker 2: (21:47)
I mean, we started working with, um, a lot of accounting firms because we started focused on the accounting systems, right? It's gonna get connected to QuickBooks zero, et cetera. And, and what we saw a lot is that as a business starts to grow the built in features in those platforms, they outgrow the built in features for helping them with collections and then they start to look for accounts receivable automation tools. And, and we looked at it and we kind of thought, you know, an accounts receivable automation tool is basically some accounting information plus customer communications, right? Is really the core function. And for any business with a crm, you already have a hub for all your customer communications. Um, you know, why have this separate, you know, little satellite function of, of um, kind of collections information. So really it's just, if you can take some of that, if you can take that payment information, you know, invoice status, historical payment performance kind of estimates of credit risk, and you can put that into, into HubSpot or into Salesforce, now you've got all your customer communication centralized, you get a better, you're able to deliver a better customer experience cuz everybody knows, uh, the status of, of that customer from the full, you know, cliche, the full 360, right?

Speaker 2: (23:04)
For many opportunities or deals that they have all the way through what's outstanding, what they've been paid. And you know, CRMs have such rich automation capabilities that those workflows can be used to send the automatic payment reminders, um, to create tasks for the company owner, you know, the right people inside your business to help follow up with a customer. Um, and it's really, you know, it's actually not that complicated. It's, it's pretty easy to, to get that information. Um, you know, once you connect the two systems to leverage that information once it's inside HubSpot, to, to use those automations and keep everything centralized and, and a much more personalized, better experience for the, for the customer.

Speaker 2: (23:53)
I think we have a, a couple examples of the, on the next slide, an example of how some of that information, um, you know, shows up. So, you know, this is the result of a few automations and taking advantage of the, um, the timeline or event activity feature inside HubSpot. So by putting in, um, a notice whenever a customer has an overdue invoice, um, you can now trigger workflows based on that to do things like a sign of task, right? So, um, the information is all there on their sales, their sales history, but also their payment history with essentially real time alerts into payment performance. Um, that can be used across everything, you know, everything that HubSpot or other CRMs do to automate that process. Um, and the next slide is kind of a, you know, a high level view of, of that flow, um, using the, the kind of the HubSpot mini map.

Speaker 2: (24:49)
But you know, you can start by triggering on that overdue invoice. So as soon as you see one, um, generate an an email to the customer using workflow and the email templates inside HubSpot to kindly ask them to, you know, check follow up on their payment, let let them let you know if it's already been sent or not. Um, and then we liked setting in a a wait period, so wait, you know, five days, seven days, whatever's appropriate for the business, and then check and see if that invoice is still listed as unpaid inside HubSpot. And then if it is, you might send another email or you might start creating tasks, um, for team members to directly follow up, uh, with the customer, check in, make sure everything's okay, maybe notify sales that there's, you know, if it's, if it's very overdue, there's a potential problem. So again, it's just, um, by putting some extra, by enriching HubSpot with some extra information, there are just so many features and functions of HubSpot that become more powerful, um, by leveraging that information across those capabilities.

Speaker 1: (25:52)
I think one of the things that sort of you touched on that I love about that as well is being able to have a lot more actionable things by having it inside the CRM than you would otherwise, right? Whereas is you may have a process where in your accounting solution, maybe your finance team is closing books and they're like, oh, okay, this customer's overdue, we need to reach out. And then they need to go and tell the project team or the whoever the CMS or the whoever the Cs or the sales people are, Hey, wait a minute, we don't wanna approve that deal yet. And being able to have this directly inside of your CRM solution means that your sales people are looking at this and saying, oh wait, this customer's overdue. Let's not go in and, and process this next deal. Or you're informing your project team and saying, Hey, bring this up on the next call you have scheduled.

Speaker 1: (26:36)
And we see this all the time where, uh, finance and the accounting team is going and saying, Hey, customer, you owe us money. Uh, and the finance people on the other side are like, ah, maybe I'll blow this off. And if you sort of go to who your direct contact is, like, Hey, I know we have these weeklies. I'm not trying to shut you down, but we are trying to get paid. Uh, it immediately drives action on, uh, the client side as well. And I think the, the power of that is, is hard to overstate.

Speaker 2: (27:00)
Yeah. The, the automation see the extra efficiency, um, that you get across the teams. I mean, right now, so many businesses that, that we talk to, everybody's, you know, struggling to hire and build out their teams and be as efficient as they can. And, um, and this is just a great way to make sure everybody has the information that they need to, to boost their, you know, communication with the customer and, and, and be operationally efficient inside the business too.

Speaker 1: (27:26)
Cool. Well, let's move to sort of what you can expect as outcomes from this. And I'll, I'll let you touch on these, Brian, but after this, uh, if anyone does have questions, uh, we'd love to take them. Uh, and then in the follow up we'll also distribute sort of links and feel free to try out telestra and all that cool stuff and we'll give our contact information. But Brian, I'll let you close this out on sort of as soon as somebody gets these things connected, uh, what can they expect?

Speaker 2: (27:49)
Yeah, I mean it's, um, you know, the AR automation was just one example of something that you can do. Um, but once you connect accounting with, with HubSpot, with your crm, and once you pass in not just some basic data, but really customer insights, analytics results, um, about those customers, including things, you know, more sophisticated like segmentation, um, essentially everything in hub site gets better. So, you know, better dashboards. So you actually do get a, a complete view of the customer life cycle, not just through the deal being won, but all the way through actually getting paid and collecting and validating the deal values across what happened. Um, you kind of, as we talk about collections with, with all those metrics now in one place where the, you know, the information is democratized so everybody in the company can have access to it, everybody's on the same page, everybody's connected.

Speaker 2: (28:45)
It's just, um, you know, it is kind of almost magical. It's just, it's really, really easy. Um, I see one question, Chad, about the systems that we support or that are supported and, um, you know, to basically that the first step is to connect College Street to accounting. Um, right now we connect to QuickBooks, all versions online as well as the desktop and enterprise versions, um, zero and phage intact, and we have other platforms coming and getting those connected takes seconds, connecting to, you know, HubSpot or Salesforce also takes seconds. And then the metrics are fully automated and refreshed every day and synced into the crm. Um, and we automatically match between the customers in the accounting system and the customers in the crm. So really you can go from nothing to having an enriched, uh, you know, CRM in, in like a minute, um, you know, no exaggeration. Um, and then start building out all those extra capabilities inside HubSpot using these new, new insights and analytics.

Speaker 1: (29:53)
I'll emphasize on Brian on how easy this is in that we had, uh, a prospect that we were working with and we wanted to do sort of a proof of concept on how Tally Street would work with, with their whole process. And, uh, we got it all connected, uh, and everything up and running, uh, in 10 minutes or so. Uh, and then we're able to sort of model out here's what some of these workflows could look like. Here's how this data would be enriched and here's how you guys could end up using this. And I think the, the ease, uh, is, is amazing. Uh, and I think that the matching you guys do is incredibly powerful as well, but I think that is, uh, hugely valuable. So I think you had said on the CRM side, Salesforce and HubSpot, uh, and then Sage, QuickBooks, and I'm missing one.

Speaker 2: (30:35)
Yeah, so on, on accounting is, uh, all versions of QuickBooks Zero and Sage Act. And then on the CRM side, it's, um, HubSpot, Salesforce, and then we have a beta going right now with Active campaign.

Speaker 1: (30:50)
Cool. Thank you for your question, John. Um, we'll go ahead if you have any other questions, uh, throw them in the chat, throw them in the q and a. Uh, we'd love to field them, but wanna give you guys are direct information. Uh, if you have questions on HubSpot, anything you can do with some of the Salesforce, the automation solutions, uh, feel free to reach out to me by email, uh, or connect with me on, on LinkedIn. Uh, and Brian on your end is, is email the best way to get ahold of you? How do you want people to, to interact?

Speaker 2: (31:17)
Yeah, same with me. Email's great. So feel free to reach out directly. Uh, there's tons of information on our website too as well as, you know, forms there to get in contact if you prefer to do it that way. But, um, but yeah, don't hesitate to, you know, shoot me an email with any question, comment, uh, that you have.

Speaker 1: (31:34)
And we'll send out, uh, a link in the recording. So for those of you who are live, we'll send out a recording. We'll also include links for Tally Street, check it out, uh, you can install it, uh, direct from their site. Um, and, uh, well that'll be in the follow up as well. So, uh, feel free to check it out, but we'll also make sure to remind you also, um, with that, Brian, thank you so, so much for joining us. This was awesome. Uh, and we'll send out the recording for, uh, those of you who didn't attend. Uh, and for those of you live, thank you so much.

Speaker 2: (32:03)
Awesome. Thanks for having me. This was great.